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My communication with Cortez Quinn
Chief of Staff for
First District County Supervisor Roger Dickinson
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10/24/04 email to Mr. Quinn: stop sign policies
11/2/04 email to Quinn, followup; no answer
received to my 10/24/04 email
11/2/04 From Quinn, reply to my followup: he
received my 10/24/04 email
11/18/04 To Quinn, asks for coordinated survey area
limits
11/24/04 To Quinn, followup: no answer received
to my 11/18/04 email
12/3/04 To Quinn, third request for coordinated
survey limits
12/10/04 To Quinn, fourth request
12/10/04 From Quinn, defines survey area, claims 80%
in favor of stop signs
12/10/04 To Quinn, re 52 residents of nearby streets
not allowed to vote
12/18/04 To Quinn, restating request for coordinated
survey limits
12/22/04 Response from Supervisor Roger
Dickinson to my 12/18 email to
Quinn
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: stop sign policies
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2004 08:40:07 -0700
From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
To: Cortez Quinn <xxxxxx@saccounty.net>
CC: Mark Manoff <xxxxxxx@saccounty.net>
Hal Morris
<xxxxxxxx@comcast.net>
Cortez,
Thank you for attending the CPAC meeting October 12th and hearing the
Second Street stop sign issue. I understand that Supervisor Dickinson
made a statement that encouraged a community meeting be held prior to
the installation of the stop signs, so I know he is aware of the
commitment to hold that meeting that that was subsequently broken by
the County.
As included in my statement made at that meeting, I am requesting a
copy of County policies:
"This is a request for a copy of the County policy that established the
voting procedure, including the use of what is identified as a
'questionnaire' or 'survey', yet is actually a binding vote compelling
a County action. I want to see the policy that identifies how
voters are chosen, how returned ballots are secured and tallied, and
how the ballot language is written and approved. I want to see the
policy that did not allow me to either write an opposing ballot
statement or lacking that, prevented me from finding out who was
empowered to vote to install the stop signs. I want to see the policy
that prevented me from presenting my side of the issue to voters before
they cast their ballot."
See http://obri.net/2nd/Oct12.html for my
complete statement. See also http://obri.net/2nd
for additional information.
That request is reiterated at the end of the Rio Linda Elverta NEWS
article October 21, and a request is added for the actual, approved,
"Board policy" that DOT claims directs the process for approval and
installation of speed control stop signs.
See http://rlenews.com/04/041021.html#county
for the article.
I have enlisted the aid of Mark Manoff, and he has forwarded my
specific requests for information to Mr. Randy Faust. A copy of that
correspondence is included for your information.
Cortez, as the "keeper" of actual Board policies, could you and your
office please facilitate the provision of the information I seek? I
would appreciate your assistance.
Thanks,
Jay O'Brien
Rio Linda
cc: Mark Manoff, DNS
Hal Morris, CPAC
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: 2nd St. stop signs - outstanding requests
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 06:34:06 -0700
From: Manoff. Mark <xxxxxxx@saccounty.net>
To: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
Jay,
I forwarded this to Randy. His e- mail foustr@ saccounty.net
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 2nd St. stop signs - outstanding requests
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 15:08:51 -0700
From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
To: Mark Manoff <xxxxxxx@saccounty.net>
Mark,
Mr. Faust has not provided his email address to me, so I am asking you
to accept the following requests from me for information and to respond
to me.
1. This is a follow up to the telephone call I
received from Mr. Randy Faust on September 30, 2004 (my caller ID said
"blocked call", so I do not know the number from which he called). I
asked for and he agreed to provide, "next week", the following
information:
- "The County adopted board policy at this time" as it
applies to the use of speed control measures on rural roads, including
speed control stop signs and speed bumps.
- Details on "the criteria that was met" to comply with
the county adopted board policy as it applies to the Second Street
speed control measure.
- Details on any work that was done to measure and
validate the criteria that was met.
-- see http://obri.net/2nd/home.html#9
I did receive, without a cover letter, on October 9, 2004, an envelope
from DOT that contained a November 25, 1986 recommendation from Douglas
M. Fraleigh, Director, Department of Public Works, to the Board of
Supervisors recommending five items, including expansion of the
Neighborhood Speed Control Program to semi-rural streets. What I
received shows no indication of Board adoption. It is unknown if this
is the actual adopted policy. What I want is a valid Board resolution,
the actual date adopted, any changes the Board may have made, and the
votes as cast by the Board. Please provide a "real" copy of the
approved Board policy.
-- see http://obri.net/2nd/861125.html
1.1 I also received, in that envelope On October 9, 2004, an
"Engineering and traffic study" (8-24-04) plus a 24 hour traffic count
(8-19-04). As there was no cover letter, there is no statement that
these are the studies that justified the stop sign. I request
confirmation that these are such studies, and that these are the only
studies involved.
-- see http://obri.net/2nd/survey.html
2. As I requested at the CPAC meeting October 12:
"This is a request for a copy of the County policy that established the
voting procedure, including the use of what is identified as a
'questionnaire' or 'survey', yet is actually a binding vote compelling
a County action. I want to see the policy that identifies how
voters are chosen, how returned ballots are secured and tallied, and
how the ballot language is written and approved. I want to see the
policy that did not allow me to either write an opposing ballot
statement or lacking that, prevented me from finding out who was
empowered to vote to install the stop signs. I want to see the policy
that prevented me from presenting my side of the issue to voters before
they cast their ballot."
-- see http://obri.net/2nd/Oct12.html#request
Your prompt responses to my requests will be appreciated.
Thank you,
Jay O'Brien
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: stop sign policies
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 12:05:27 -0800
From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
To: Cortez Quinn <xxxxxx@saccounty.net>, Mark Manoff
<xxxxxxxounty.net>, Hal Morris <xxxxxxxxx@comcast.net>
Cortez,
Did you receive the message I sent to you October 24th? I am repeating
it below. [original included copy of 10/24 message above]
Jay O'Brien
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: stop sign policies
Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:27:29 -0800
From: Quinn. Cortez <xxxxxx@saccounty.net>
To: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
Manoff. Mark <xxxxxxxx@saccounty.net>
Hal Morris
<xxxxxxxx@comcast.net>
Jay: I received your e-mail and as 'keeper' of the
Board Policies, I have enlisted our DOT to help in locating those
policies related to the issue at hand. I will get back to you as
soon as I receive relevant information regarding the stop sign issue
that you have addressed.
Cortez
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Second Street speed control stop signs
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2004 11:16:18 -0800
From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
To: Cortez Quinn <xxxxxx@saccounty.net>
Cortez,
Would you please let me know the limits of the questionnaire survey
area for the speed control stop signs on Second Street at Shady Woods
Way? This would have been coordinated at some time prior to
August 30, 2004.
If correspondence or emails are available supporting your office's
coordination of this issue, I would appreciate copies.
Thank you,
Jay O'Brien
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Second Street speed control stop signs
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:52:13 -0800
From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
To: Cortez Quinn <xxxxxx@saccounty.net>
Cortez,
Did you receive the message below I sent to you last week? [original included copy of 11/18
message above]
I'm interested in this as many residents that are close to and impacted
by the stop signs were not included by DOT in the DOT "survey" that
collected the votes that were used by DOT to authorize and justify the
installation of the stop signs.
I'm sure that if your office was involved that you would have
considered those residents, but there could well be some mitigating
circumstances; I would like to know what input Supervisor Dickinson's
office had to the creation of the "survey area" used by DOT. Your
correspondence files should reveal your communication with DOT on this
subject.
Jay O'Brien
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Second Street speed control stop signs
Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:06:47 -0800
From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
To: Cortez Quinn <xxxxxx@saccounty.net>
Cortez,
This is my third request to you for information on the "survey area"
DOT coordinated with Supervisor Dickinson that was used to collect
votes that resulted in the installation of speed control stop signs on
Second Street at Shady Woods Way.
The new speed control stop signs are only 880 feet from the
pre-existing stop signs on Second Street at M Street. The new stop
signs potentially effect 52 residents, all within 880 feet of the new
stop signs, that may traverse Second Street on the way to their
properties on Shady Woods Way, Shady Willow Court, Berry Oak Court and
Shady Valley Court. These 52 residents were not designated to vote on
this issue, and I want to know what prompted the decision to not allow
them to vote, while requesting votes from only 34 other properties. A
third of the 34 properties who were designated to vote are farther from
the new speed control stop signs than the 52 who were not given the
opportunity to vote.
I would appreciate a prompt reply.
Jay O'Brien
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Second Street speed control stop signs
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:26:37 -0800
From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
To: Cortez Quinn <xxxxx@saccounty.net>
CC: Don Flesch <rlnews@aol.com>
Cortez,
Will I hear from you soon on this issue? This is my fourth request to
you. I would prefer to have a response from Supervisor Dickinson's
office before I write an article for The NEWS on this subject. [original included copy of 12/3 message above]
Jay O'Brien
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Second Street speed control stop signs
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:32:41 -0800
From: Quinn. Cortez <xxxxxx@saccounty.net>
To: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
CC: Dickinson. Roger <xxxxxxxxxx@saccounty.net>
Jay:
Happy Holidays!!
I have received your messages, and I apologize for the delay in
responding to you. The survey area was 2nd Street from M to Q
Streets. Additionally, 80% of those who participated in the survey were
in favor of the stop sign installation. I believe that Supervisor
Dickinson will not support the removal of the stop signs on 2nd Street
at this time. However, we will be happy to revisit this situation when
the new Neighborhood Traffic Management Program is adopted by the Board.
Please let me know whether or not this response answers your question.
Sincerely,
Cortez L. Quinn
Chief of Staff to
Supervisor Roger Dickinson
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Second Street speed control stop signs
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:36:48 -0800
From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
To: Cortez Quinn <xxxxxx@saccounty.net>
CC: Roger Dickinson <xxxxxxxxxx@saccounty.net>
Cortez,
Please confirm that the 52 residents of Shady Woods Way, Shady Willow
Court, Berry Oak Court and Shady Valley Court who may access their
properties via the stretch of Second Street between M and Q Streets
were not included by Supervisor Dickinson in the list of those whom he
agreed could be authorized to vote to have the speed control stop signs
installed or not installed.
Thank you,
Jay
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: Second Street speed control stop signs
Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:48:00 -0800
From: Jay O'Brien <jayobrien@att.net>
To: Cortez Quinn <xxxxxx@saccounty.net>
CC: Roger Dickinson <xxxxxxxxxx@saccounty.net>
Mark Manoff
<xxxxxxx@saccounty.net>
Don Flesch
<rlnews@aol.com>
Cortez,
Thanks for discussing the speed control stop sign issue with me at the
CPAC meeting Tuesday night.
You said that you would respond accordingly if you can get more
information from the Department of Transportation.
Cortez, I'm asking for confirmation from your office that the list of
people anointed to vote for or against the stop signs was actually
coordinated with your office and that your office agreed that the
residents on Shady Woods Way, Shady Willow Court, Berry Oak Court and
Shady Valley Court who may access their properties via the affected
stretch of Second Street between M and Q Streets should not have been
provided the opportunity to vote for or against the speed control stop
signs that have been installed on Second Street at Shady Woods Way.
What I am asking for is a response from your office, not from the
Department of Transportation. Their responsibility was to contact your
office, per the Residential Speed Control Process adopted by the Board
of Supervisors on March 29, 1994, item 38. Your office, as the
representative of the people affected by the stop signs that
Transportation was proposing was to be contacted to coordinate the
"limits of the questionnaire survey area." I seek the details of
this coordination.
It is your communication with the Department of Transportation,
expressing your coordination, that I seek; not something that you would
now obtain from the Department of Transportation.
As I said at the CPAC meeting, and you responded that you hear me, the
issue is the process, not the stop signs. I have had many bad
experiences with the arbitrary and capricious Department of
Transportation. What is unfortunate, in my opinion, is that they don't
know (or care) that they work for me. I don't work for them.
The Department of Transportation is a shining example of why Citrus
Heights, Elk Grove and Rancho Cordova exist, and a shining example of
what the Community Service Centers and Community Councils must overcome
to be successful. My hat is off to Mark Manoff for even trying to pull
this together.
Jay
The response to my email above came from First District Supervisor
Roger Dickinson on December 22, 2004. Click
here for that
correspondence.
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